I’d prefer to avoid placeholder solutions and I fear it could cause an over-representation of refugee heroes. Thanks for your reply, but I think that I will let later VCMI releases fix the issue itself.
I’m working on a creature bank right now. Once finished, I will release the version 1.0 as I have nothing left in my to-do-list. Expect release real soon.
Note : Mod was worked on VCMI 1.4.2 and wasn’t tested on newer VCMI versions. This time main folder is refugee-town and music files are in .OGG format.
Base idea for the mod was to use neutral units and it was a direct inspiration to Wog’s neutral town. Though, now that I’m familiar with sprite editing I could replace Sorceress indeed with a weaker variant of Enchanter.
By the way, I’m already working on a version 1.1. I’m open to feedback until the release of this final version. So don’t hesitate to list me everything, even minor, that needs to be fixed or improved.
I’ve been writing a background lore for the faction, and I’m doing a complete rework of heroes descriptions. I’m considering changing few portraits as well.
Is there any hero portraits you don’t like ? Or heroes mechanic/skills you’d prefer ? etc.
Edit : We could add new heroes too by the way. Any suggestions welcomed.
In my opinion, the biggest problem is the biological model, and it is very strange that Sorceress from and Enchanter are the same building. If possible, I hope the model can have more changes.
Enchanter and Sorceress can only build one side.
Heroes generally have anti Christian skills, perhaps the reason should be explained.
There should also be chaotic and evil characters among so many anti Christian heroes.
Kinda feel like this faction is seen as too evil for what it’s supposed to be : neutral. Refugee’s creatures and heroes are people who lost their home, uniting to create their own town (faction).
What interesting new & unique specialties could we add to this faction’s heroes ?
Here screenshot for the weaker variant of enchanter, it has the red-color of refugee (castle, sagittarii, refugee’s heroes).
NEW LEVEL7 CREATURE ! :
Also, from the early beginning up to the latest release, tier 7 doesn’t seems to be liked/popular that much. I’m working on a replacement for the next release. It’s an evil creature so replacing it should reduces the “evil” feeling this town has.
Since everybody love and want dragon, here we go. I present to you a Dragolem (dragon-golem) !
It’s my first time creating a H3 sprite from scratch. As you can see, I’ve been using crystal dragon as a base for body/legs/tail. I’m now trying to animate it using creature2D. Note: It’s still a WIP, it lacks post-processing effects.
When it comes to stats/abilities, here’s what I’ve been thinking of :
High DEF stats. Eventually defensive stance ability (only if necessary).
It looks interesting, but lacks uniqueness.
Nowadays, refugee towns have many elements of Zoroastrianism, and perhaps they can be designed around this.
Additionally, the map sprite for Daevas is incorrect.
I know it can only be obtained through recruitment, but this will affect the editing of custom maps.
Wow, I am amazed with this release, although, I didn’t have much time to play, unfortunatelly.
There is suggestion from me, about the native terrain. I think “dirt” doesn’t suits well for this town. This terrain is more common with Necropolis, or Dungeon, whose are full of purrely evil, and nasty creatures, who are living in such environment (the dirt).
“Rough” is better choice for Refugee as a native terrain in my opinion. The town is a refuge for everyone, outside the “mainstream”, who seek for protection, somewhere in a distant, mountainous area. It also corresponds better with Assyrian/Akkadian style of the city, somewhat like “desert/middle estern” athospehere.
About new units. You may always consider alternative creatures.
Small update with new townscreen visuals. For next update, I will make alternative dwellings for Refuge. This mean the player will be able to chose between two route :
Classic route : Dwelling 6 = Enchanter, which will unlock Dwelling 7 = Mercury Lake for Dragolems. (still working on the visual).
As you can see, there’s a new building next to the Hall. This is a new dwelling for a new Tier 1 unit. This meant previous creatures will move one step in level, which will be more coherent to their original level. After that, there will be a balance overhaul.
I did few changes to some buildings as well. I will try to see if I can make the Mage Guild better looking.
Here’s an updated version of new Tier 7 sprite (old one being on the left). This is a rusty mechanical dragon (Dragolem). Unupgraded (center) is finished, the upgraded version (right) still needs improvements.
I’ve made alternative units for tier 6 and tier 7 and player will have the choice between good or evil route :
Good Route (Enchanters / Dragolems)
→ ----------------- →
Evil Route (Hell Steed / Ahrimans)
→ – →
From what I understand, the base units will always be used for both town’s details in scenario screen, they are the one shown in the fort screen and adv.map dwellings that are “same as town” will always be the ones for these normal units.
It there something to do to make alternative units equally represented with adv.map dwellings ?
This update is intended to be my “final” release. This mean that I will no longer be actively working on this mod. If there’s any major bugs that are unrelated to VCMI updates, I could make a patch (if I’m still active on H3 VCMI modding).
Right now, I’m designing 2 new evil factions projects : Dread and Pristine. There’s more info on that within the PDF manual. Both are almost finished in terms of conceptualizing. I will be creating a thread before working on them so I don’t make the same mistake for Refuge.
Eventually, I might work on this mod again in “few years” when AI tools will be consistent enough. Also, I do not know if I’m gonna work on these new towns right now, or if I will start later on. Time will tell.
To modders: This mod is open to community contribution and improvements. In case you feel your change is “too much” or could divide, you might consider making it a submod.
Anyway, thanks VCMI Forum for all the help. I hope people enjoy playing this faction !
This looks great! Perhaps we can modify Sorceress’s design to make her a Henchmen?
In addition, the data of shapeshifters is still residual, and random maps may encounter it.
I am using a 1.45 VCMI, and the resources are downloaded directly from the server.
My personal guess may be related to them becoming their corresponding original creatures.
Latest Refuge version uses original creatures as I removed duplicated ones.
Though, I’m still using VCMI 1.4.2 so it might be related to VCMI 1.4.3 - 1.4.5 updates.
I will update my VCMI and see if I can reproduce the issue.
Edit : I wasn’t able to reproduce your issue. Can you tell me which other mods you’re using ?
This is a list. The main functional ones are HOA, TOW, and WOG. As of the previous version, there have been no such issues.
By the way, one of my friends has experienced a situation where the translation file became invalid due to the original version of the bio, and VCMI’s Chinese plugin had to be used.