Need help with testing H3 behaiour

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#1

It seems that H3 treats some victory conditions in a special way - our “simple” read map & use it as it fails resulting in bugs like #733 & #1415

I’ve managed to localized this a bit but there are still some unclear details. Can somebody who have free time and don’t mind to spend time switching between game & map editor to test these situations:

  1. What happens if there is only one player on the map with victory condition set to:
  • Acquire artifact
  • Build grail
  • Transport artifact

Will this result in instant win? Or will you still need to complete the goal?

  1. What happens when on map with following conditions player defeats all enemies:
  • Acquire artifact
  • Build grail
  • Transport artifact

Wil you win or you still need to fulfill the goal?

  1. What happens if on map with following victory conditions AI will complete them before player:
  • Upgrade town
  • Build grail
  • Defeat monster
  • Defeat hero

Will this trigger defeat for player or these conditions are player-specific?

#2

So I tested VCMI and results are following:

  1. What happens if there is only one player on the map with victory condition set to:
  • Acquire artifact - instant win
  • Build grail - instant win
  • Transport artifact - instant win
  1. What happens when on map with following conditions player defeats all enemies:
  • Acquire artifact - after defeating all enemies you win.
  • Build grail - after defeating all enemies you win.
  • Transport artifact - after defeating all enemies you win.
  1. What happens if on map with following victory conditions AI will complete them before player:
  • Upgrade town - if AI will complete town upgrading before the player, then the player loses scenario.
  • Build grail - wow, such condition crashed the game.
  • Defeat monster - I think the AI doesn’t see such condition so never tries to defeat specific monster. But once, when the enemy hero captured my town, and then I recaptured my town back by defeating that hero, new one has been recruited and that one tried to defeat the monster and caused the game to freeze. Moreover, when I tried to defeat the monster, the game also freezed.
  • Defeat hero - The AI never tries to defeat such hero.
#3

Thanks. But that’s weird. Because there is at least one map with such condition (Transport artifact, no enemies) that works OK in H3: bugs.vcmi.eu/view.php?id=1415

How H3 detects such cases I wonder…

Oh well… At least for now I will handle these cases as:

  1. “defeat all enemies” victory condition will be disabled
  2. Normal victory allowed.
  3. AI can win game as well as player.

UPD:

No, not VCMI but H3. I’m interested in how original game, Heroes 3, handles these cases.

I’ll check out those crashes in vcmi though so your tests were not in vain :slight_smile:

#4

After testing OH3 the results are following:

  1. What happens if there is only one player on the map with victory condition set to:
  • Acquire artifact - after obtaining artifact you instantly win
  • Build grail - just obtain grail and build it in your town, then you win
  • Transport artifact - obtain a artifact, transport it to the town and you win
  1. What happens when on map with following conditions player defeats all enemies:
  • Acquire artifact - after defeating all enemies you win.
  • Build grail - after defeating all enemies you win.
  • Transport artifact - after defeating all enemies you win.
  1. What happens if on map with following victory conditions AI will complete them before player:
  • Upgrade town - if AI will complete this condition before you, then you lose scenario.
  • Build grail - when the enemy find the grail and build it in the town, you lose scenario.
  • Defeat monster - immediately after defeating monster by AI, you lose scenario.
  • Defeat hero - if AI defeat specific hero, nothing happens.
#5

Thanks, all crashes you’ve found are now fixed and victory conditions should behave as in H3. Yay.

#6

Okey, nice to hear it :slight_smile: